After reading an excellent post made by Mik Furie, I decided to develop an idea of the post that was in my mind for some time.


Upon my humble opinion, invention of television is, among electricity, phone, PC and burek with yoghurt, one of the most important things that happened in 20th century. It literally changed the way of life. And it was is the most mercilessly obused device ever.
Long time ago, when I was still a kid, we, in former Yugoslavia lived in informatic and communication Heaven. We had only 2 channels of official government-led television, only the rare owned video players, no signs of PCs or mobile devices. Even the phone line was a luxury for some. But we had a TV. And radio, too, BUT we had a TV!!! During parts of the day when I was not in school or learning, I spent free time in reading or watching TV program. During that time, it consisted of mostly boring political "Big-Brother-will-tell-you-what-to-think" shows (that no one watched), some sports, news and movies. My father was interested mostly in football (soccer, for my USA friends) and basketball, and it was broadcasted usually during afternoon so mornings were mine (when I was not at school). I spent my time watching "The World of Survival" (does anyone remember David Bellamy?) and some of the movies when they made them from a heart.
First time I felt bored from it, was during 90s. Great economic crisses, the World`s biggest monetary inflation plus wars in our former country made a TV program obused by a leading party for spreading their political views – something similar to "Big-Brother-will-tell-you-what-to-think" but much more aggressive. We didn`t have money to buy a proper food but there was a lady on the news telling us how great our life is and that everyone else are wrong in everything; we were the most beautiful, most intelligent, magnificent nation and all the others are thinking evil thoughts. Suddenly, all the beautiful shows about nature disappeared, instead we got more political and quasi-political shows – some of them included half dressed women from show business. They still talked about how beautiful our life is, especially that part when they explained how easy it is to drive brand new Mercedes they bought; and about "material for their new project" which, more or less sounded like this:
Need any comment? We didn`t have to wait for too long before soap operas came and after that Big Brother, Farm, Changing a Wife, Moment of Truth, etc, etc. I am not sure if the last two came from abroad, they could be "projects" of some ingenious mind from here – Serbia or some other Balkan country. In first one there are two families, and father of families exchange wives – for a week or so – and then we can all see how a new wife/mom is adapted to a new family :faint: At the end, they all return to their original families, share impressions, and someone pick a family who will get some money for displaying all of their stupidity in public. Moment of Truth is even worse (I think I saw something similar in one USA TV), for a certain amount of money participant need to answer questions that reveal all of the personal trash he/she hided for a whole life – using of alcohol and drugs and cheating on husband/wife are the top of that pile of shit – and the most wanted :left:
Where "The World of Survival" has gone? Suddenly it was transformed into survival of watching so called pre-election political marketing, another pile of shit that no one wants to see but we all have to pay for.
All of this represents collective state of mind in Serbia and some of the consequences are described in Mik Furie`s post.
So I stopped watching TV. Anyway, there was, and still is, nothing interesting to see. At the beginning of 21st century we finaly got another miracle of developed world, a cable TV :hat: So, one day a company dedicated to cover cable TV broadcast in my part of town, offered to make free of charge connection to all new users; so I applied. A friend told me there are some great programs to watch, like Animal Planet, History Channel, National Geographic and I got myself hooked. Representative from a company came to my home, offered me some application form to fill and on his way out, told me they will send someone to connect me. After 15 days I got a bill for a first month :eyes: Being without service I refused to pay and called them to sort things out. They apologised and told me someone will come soon to connect me. After a month, I called again and they told me they have a big "project" (that word again) on the other part of the town, but my neighbourhood is the next. After another month I called again and the excuse was: "Sorry, we don`t have cables, we need to wait for next shipment…" So, I tore contract to pieces and forgot about whole thing. It was in 2002. and I think they are still waiting for that shipment to come ๐Ÿ˜›
Few days ago, I was buying a new fridge, and used that opportunity to take a look at some of the TVs in a shop. Flat screen, plasma, big with beautiful colours, they all look like from a Star Trek comparing to my 19 years old Kamacrown TV I have at home. Since my grandma broke a hip last year, my grandpa must stay at home to help her. She is mostly sleeping now so he spends a day watching TV, and I thought it would be nice to buy a newer one, not plasma or flat, they are too expensive for us, but anything that will ease his eyesight. So I asked him about the idea. I would pay for it anyway.
"Why?, he asked, "It would be a waste of money".

My thought, exactly :yes:

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189 Responses to TV

  1. sanshan says:

    We didn't have a tv until I was 5 years old. So my siblings and I were already had good habits about amusing ourselves without being "entertained". Then , when I moved away from home I didn't have a television, only a small radio, and I didn't get a tv until I was almost 30! That tv was a small black and white model bought at a garage sale, and because I didn't have cable I could only get two stations. Now, I do have cable but only the basic channels (25), and my television was free, given to me by someone who "needed" a newer, bigger model. I have no desire to upgrade. (the computer is another thing though!)

  2. PainterWoman says:

    Ah, the telly. What would we do without it? There are only a few shows I watch on a regular basis: House (about a notorious doctor), Criminal Minds (about FBI investigations and profiling) and Lie to Me (about investigations and micro-expressions). Sometimes, I think I keep the TV on just for the noise. Since I live alone, somehow that noise makes me feel as if there are more people in the house. Now that's pathetic.

  3. Suntana says:

    Darko, there IS a TV Show here in the USA called Wife Swap. I never saw it and don't know if it's still going on or canceled. And yes, I caught a little bit of one episode of a TV Show with I believe the same title, "Moment of Truth." Yep, they spilled their guts about everything. I guess on some level it might be worth it to those who win. But, for the ones who lost … now they had revealed all sorts of very critical, trashy, extremely risky secrets … and now had no monetary compensation for having emptied out their mind's formerly Top Secret Garbage reservoir. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Some divorces probably resulted out of those attempts at winning some money.

  4. Suntana says:

    While TV is definitely one of the biggest inventions, has certainly lost its undisputed monopoly, king status. The computer and Internet and of course the Internet-capable phones are now way up there as to amount of usage they get.In my family, we didn't have Color TV until around the time I was in the 4th Grade. Heck, we didn't have a phone until I was a Senior in High School.Yep, Darko, that sounds about how politics goes. The incumbent administration will tell you how great you and everyone has it and everything is on schedule for even more amazing greatness. Reality will of course indicate differently. The opposing party will of course also tell them they're full of BS.

  5. thaodp says:

    Pam, my mom usually turns the tv on just for the noise like you do. When I was a child there were only two TVs – balck and white tvs in our village. I had to pass thru the paddy field to watch tv in the evening.Until 1993 we could buy a TV. There was one or two chanels. I loved to watch children program which was called Tiny flowers – I could see many lovely children sing and dance. It was just 15 minutes per day. I always counted the time to watch it.I had liked to watch the news so much that I didn't go to sleep until I watched the final news of day ๐Ÿ˜€ Now, I use TV only for watching films.

  6. Words says:

    Good post. I remember two channels, then three, then four. And then they let some of them broadcast in the morning as well. Now we have five channels, plus all the 'freeview' channels. I refuse to pay for satellite or cable. As for the 'box', three or four years ago we went mad and bought a 21" square CRT television. They looked at us like we were mad in the shop, ignoring all the flat-screen, widescreen, plasma screen TVs. But the content is so bad it hardly makes any difference. And that's the point. However good the technology a great film or show will still be great on a cheap old TV. I remember watching Pulp Fiction on a 14" TV. Stunning film. So really, size does not matter. It's the quality that counts.

  7. thetomster says:

    ๐Ÿ™‚ yeah, TV … I don't have one any more … because of all the reasons you descrobed so well, Darko … and I will tell you again "Serbia is everywhere!" … as far as I know, we had this kind of crap shows here too, and they're still running … in times when children have their first glass of milk (real milk) when they accidentally order a milkshake at McD's instead of being given at home for breakfast the TV-stations here are making a big hype about cooking and food shows … the family shows we had already … I remember te time very well when we had this steam driven b/w 2 channel 14" inch TV set … I don't know but I guess a lot of people weren't gaining weight so fast because you had to get up and lift your ass to change programs … no remote control :eyes: … and then … yeah, it's like in this wonderful song "video killed the radio star" … and TV sucks out people's brains … in Serbia and Germany and everywhere else …btw: I like the crappy videos you always come up with … like on Mik Furie's post … sadly bad taste sells a lot … trademarks and poor minds … :up:

  8. PainterWoman says:

    Originally posted by thetomster:

    no remote control

    Dirk, this reminded me of my mom and dad. They had two easy chairs set up about six feet from the tv, which had no remote. My dad took a dowell rod and kept it between the chairs. It was six feet long so all they had to do was lean over a little and change the channel with the rod. ๐Ÿ˜†

  9. KYren says:

    In Indian news media 98% of the reporters are from only one caste, brahmins. Though there are people of all skin colors in every caste in india, the movies and serials take only fair skinned people as actors. :irked: The casteist news media in my country shows horoscope and religious programs 24/7. They use tv to keep people here ignorants, so that they can fool and rule them. I have stopped taking news channels seriously.

  10. thetomster says:

    ๐Ÿ˜† Pam, stunning ๐Ÿ’ก … but I like to remember the senseless, stupid, silly sometimes funny discussions who should get up to change the program … just to notice after the discussion was finished that the program was already over on the other channel ๐Ÿ˜†

  11. ricewood says:

    I watch movies. I watch documentaries. And I watch news. That's all nice. I have 50 channels or something, I use maybe 5 regularly.Ditch the TV? For what reason?

  12. clean says:

    I'll only watch a handful of shows (NCIS, House, Heroes, Costa's Garden Odyssey, Doctor Who, Iron Chef and mayube Top Gear if I remember when it's on), but for the most part it's kind of 'background noise'. Depending on what room I'm in, I kind of like something droning away in the background (in the kitchen, it's the radio on ABC Radio National or a talkback program somewhere). Maybe it's what I've gotten used to, just having something burbling away in the background, though when I decide to turn it off and listen to the quiet (occasionally), instead, the fact that I've had noise going all that time kind of accentuates the peace and quiet, somehow. ๐Ÿ˜†

  13. L2D2 says:

    I saw my first TV set, owned by church members, in the late 40s. We would visit them and watch WRESTLING. I was a huge wrestling fan.Family didn't own a TV till the day of Ike Eisenhower's first inauguration. Came home from school and there it sat, 15" screen TV in all it's glory. TV was great in the 50's. I Love Lucy, Bonanza, The Virginian, Have Gun Will Travel, Superman, All the westerns and comedy shows—Our Miss Brooks, My Little Margie—good, clean shows for entertainment purpose only, no agendas. Also all the great old quiz shows like Beat the Clock, This is YOur Life, I've Got a Secret. All so innocent compared to the trash on TV now. I like SciFi Channel, HGTV, Animal Planet, Discovery Channel, SOAP OPERAS, and BBCAmerica shows, some of them. Spend much more time on PC now than on TV. I listen to it more than watch. Have 150 channels plus Starz and Encore Movie channels. Most of those channels are trash.

  14. Aqualion says:

    I can only watch television for twenty minutes at a time. When I was a kid we had one Danish television channel, and three German, and they only did broadcasts after five in the afternoon. If you'd turn on the TV before five you could watch this strange picture with lines and colours while listening to radio. Back then I could sit and stare at what ever programme they'd broadcast, open mouth and eyes wide. Now I have sevntyfive programmes, but only attention span to watch twenty minutes at a time. So sad.

  15. Dacotah says:

    Awww, it wouldn't be a waste of money. I bet your Grandpa would love the picture.

  16. SittingFox says:

    I remember David Bellamy!Well, British TV isn't great. It was better years ago but cuts are always being made, the digital age has spread the budget ever more thinly, and the documentaries, sadly, are being hit by that. Which is very short-sighted, but hey.I don't watch much TV. If I have it on, I'm usually drawing and it's just in the background, almost like the radio! I have a number of DVDs that I like though, including the great wildlife series of course ๐Ÿ™‚

  17. ellinidata says:

    I was not allowed to watch much TV growing up,as an adult I realized TV is a tool, it can be used right and it can be used wrong.There are channels that make you happy without the need to think much, and there are educational programs that schools follow, many home schooled kids watch, orthere are many lonesome people that need to see and hear the news or another person… yes, it sounds sad , but there is an older person somewhere "near you". How many of us knock that door to spend time with the lonesome…not many. TV to them is a companion and I see nothing wrong with it!Sadly many lazy young people take "the tool" and use it to become more lazy.. as I said above it depends of how you see it…a great post Darko,:up:thanks for sharing ๐Ÿ™‚

  18. PainterWoman says:

    Originally posted by clean:

    just having something burbling away in the background

    ๐Ÿ˜† I love this.

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  20. gdare says:

    Graham, I remember b/w TVs when I was kid, first colour TV we got was that Kamacrown in 1990. ๐Ÿ˜› We had Serbian big brown box with two buttons, each one for one channel :DSan, at one point my friend was surprised I don`t have my own TV so he suggested I could use some of the web sites where they offer watching it on line. I went there, connected and first thing I saw was something similar to that link I put in a post. That was it :lol:Carlos, my grandparents got a phone line in 1973. when they moved to this appartment (brand new back then). But my parents got it few years ago, despite the fact they applied several times. Times are changing slowly sometimes. But TV was easier to get, just go to shop ๐Ÿ˜€ As for those shows, I was sure I saw it somewhere among USA channels my friend received over sattelite.Pam, I am having radio turned on for a noise, I was used to it since my childhood. When I was younger I tried it with TV too, but found it too distractive, I mean, I just have to stop doing whatever I did and start to watch. Then I would just forgot about the work :doh: Radio works better for me :DAnd that story about "remote control" is just funny ๐Ÿ˜† I remember I saw it on some old Yugoslav humoristic movie – old man asks his son in law to hend him remote controller and a man gives him his walking stick :lol:Mit, only two in a whole village? Wow! There is one funny story my late grandma told me (the one from Croatia); her relatives who emigrated to USA before World War 2 sent her a photograph made during 60s, there were two old ladies with an ancient model of TV between them. And in letter they explained her what it is and how it is used. Well, during 60s there were maybe 1 TV in entire village but the funny thing is they sent a letter in 1980. when it was usual for every household to have at least one :lol:Words, the one I wanted to buy to my grandpa is CRT model of some South Corean manufacturer that costs about 60 eur. But I must say, there is another reason for it. Our government declared that we will move to digital signal in 2012. and I am not sure most of the expensive TV would fit to that change – probably some of them would need adapter, too. But I can imagine the faces of the people in that shop :lol:I watched a lot of good movies in our old b/w TV and had no problem in "imagining" colours :happy:Dirk, commercials is something I will blog one day, as this part of broadcast deserves a post for itself. I was in a :doh: state of mind when one of my coleagues told me she put two of her twins in front of TV when there were commercials on. She said kids were quiet, watching them eyes open wide, talking something in "their language" – so she could finish some of the work undisturbed :faint:

  21. gdare says:

    Kyren, this is very interesting, for me, because we don`t have caste system in our society. Here, it would be considered unfair and we would have "revolution" of some kind to change that :lol:Originally posted by KYren:

    The casteist news media in my country shows horoscope and religious programs 24/7.

    Here, they used horoscopes and forseeing the future ones, about ten years ago. They were put out of law about 7 years ago and TV companies are forbidden to broadcast that kind of shows. Now they use politics (sometimes sounds the same for me) :lol:Allan, usually when I want to know what is going on in my country and in world, I read on line websites of our newspapers. Two or three of them. Then I go to to some of the Croatian web sites (2 of them too) and read the news about my country I could find there, so I can see how our neighbours are looking at the same thing. As for the world, I read in several sources (BBC, AP, Interfax). This is, upon my opinion, the best way to get objective picture about the events. Sort of :)Linda, I don`t remember when we got our first TV because it was probably there since my early age, so it was a part of my childhood. And I don`t know most of the shows you mentioned, but this is no wonder – first TV stuff from USA we got here were western movies ๐Ÿ˜Ž I liked all of them ๐Ÿ˜€ I liked USA cinematography the most, until beginning of 90s. I think they make too much movies these days because the lack of quality is evident. Somehow they are empty :awww::sst: you like soap operas? :eyes: I guess this is that romantic part of you that likes them :DDavid, since most of my readers here mentioned that Dr. House, I might give it a chance – I saw a dvd set somewhere few days ago ๐Ÿ˜€ I remember watching one episode at one of my friend`s house – I liked the subtle humour in it :up:Originally posted by clean:

    though when I decide to turn it off and listen to the quiet

    :lol:Carol, I tried that to persuade him but he is too stubborn. Did I mentioned I am stubborn, too? :lol:Martin I remember that "strange picture with lines and colours" too, they usually played Jean Michel Jarre`s music while it was on :up: Our first cahnnel broadcasted from 7 or 8 in the morning but second rarely started before 4 p.m. Third channel we got when I was in army, in july 1989. During 90s everyone discovered the power of TV and suddenly we had 15+ channels, some of them with too weak signal to even reach outside city area – so most of the villages were condemned to only 2 channels for a long time :PAdele,Originally posted by SittingFox:

    I remember David Bellamy!

    Yay!!!! I liked him so much, his way of explaining things in nature was amazing ๐Ÿ˜€ Also the voice of John Forsythe ๐Ÿ˜Ž This is why I wanted to have that cable TV, but…. (*with a sound of resignation*) meh…. :PAngeliki, the fact that most of my Opera friends never spent too much time watching TV as kids, is the reason they are creative in a way they show it here. There are too many dumb people outside :doh:This is why I like my friends here :happy:

  22. gdare says:


  23. Dacotah says:

    ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜€

  24. Aqualion says:

    Danish television has become really bad over the last fifteen years, because of no money and because of the competition from foreig channels. The news are fairly good, if you choose the right programmes, but the rest is complete rubbish. In the old days Danish television had really good comedy shows, because they could afford to hire good writers and directors. Now they have to make sure that the programme has appeal with the vievers, because if it hasn't, they won't be able to make a rerun – this is actually something they calculate when making TV nowadays: they have to make programmes that is suitable for severals reruns. They also have to consider whether the program has commercial value, if they can put it on DVD and sell it in shops, or sell the concept to other TV channels. Making television is so expensive that you can't just produce one programme to be send on a monday evening. They just don't do that anymore. Very sad.

  25. gdare says:

    Carol :DMartin, I guess this is the price all national televisions have to pay these days. It became a big industry and if you don`t fit, you are out. I have seen some commercials about family humoristic shows they broadcast now – and I didn`t liked it at all :left: I think, if someone would force me to watch it I would go insane in a short time :insane:News here were never objective. This is why I read from several sources….

  26. thaodp says:

    Darko, ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† they should have sent the letter to us at that time, ehh,not us, I mean my parents ๐Ÿ˜†

  27. Spaggyj says:

    I was a very priviliged child – my Gran was quite well off at the time and we had 4 tvs in that house :eyes: . When I moved in with my dad though, it was the opposite, one small tv in the living room. I do agree that tv has been taken over by reality shows – we have Wife Swap here as well – and it's disappointing, but since dvd came along it's a bit easier to watch so many things you like, even if it costs a lot. As for the big tv, I think I agree with your grandfather. I believe it's an "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" situation ๐Ÿ˜€

  28. gdare says:

    4 TVs? :faint:Were they all turned on at the same time? :yikes:As for dvd, I can watch them on PC. If there is a movie my gradpa want to see, he just sit in front of it and I do the technicalities :DIt is rare, though, because he can`t sit in a chair for a long time – he would rather lay in bed or sit in sofa ๐Ÿ˜€ But, dvd players are are cheap, I could easily buy one but then I will have to buy a new TV because the old one can`t be connected to any external device :doh::lol:

  29. Furie says:

    Thanks for the compliment. The problem with my post is that I find myself having a dumb weekend and can't form a comment to post there amongst the brilliant observations that others have put. :lol:.You know that we don't actually watch television here, preferring to buy DVDs of shows we know are good, or that have been recommended to us. Too often people will just watch what's on despite having no interest in it and that's the real mind rotting effect of television. While it's well known that I adore B-movies, I'm very picky about what I watch otherwise. I need very good acting (I don't care if the characters are likable as long as they're well acted), tight writing with surprises and a good mixture of drama and comedy.

  30. Spaggyj says:

    One tv in my Grandparents room, one in the living room, one in my uncle's room and one in the kitchen, in the part where there was a stereo and sofa ๐Ÿ˜€ . Maybe it would be cheaper to buy a portable dvd player for your grandfather? Then he can watch anywhere ๐Ÿ™‚

  31. gdare says:

    Originally posted by Furie:

    Too often people will just watch what's on despite having no interest in it

    So true. Also, I have noticed that people often press the buttons on remote controller switching between channels every few seconds, never really watching anything, and when they reach the last one, all of it starts from the beginning :doh: :ko: I can`t understand that :left:

  32. Suntana says:

    I forgot to mention yesterday. Darko, I thought WE had it bad here in the USA. There is a running gag here regarding Cable Installers' bad reputation of their unreliability as to when they're actually going to get to YOUR place to install your Cable. When you set up the deal, they always tell you they'll be there sometime between 8:00AM and 5:00PM. :yikes: WTF? What kind of ETA is that? Sheesh! That's ridiculous. One's got to remain a prisoner in their own home on that day because you have to be ready for them to show up sometime within that eternity. But, now I see y'all in Serbia have it worse with a possible 3 MONTH wait! :insane: :ko: :faint: One time, the Cable Repair dude didn't even show up in the entire day! Yep, I wasted an entire day imprisoned in my place only to have them NOT show up. I waited a 2nd day and the guy just barely made it like at 15 minutes till 5:00PM. I would have gone ballistic if I had been stood up 2 days.

  33. rose-marie says:

    We only had two channels when I was a kid too. I remember when we started getting foreign channels. It was Sky and Super all the way from Britain! I think I was around ten years at the time…Nowadays I, like many above here, usually have it on for background noise.

  34. Aqualion says:

    When I finished secondary school around 1989, I had a small black and white television with one of those indoor aerials. If I plugged it in the wall sockett, I could get a fairly good signal and two channels on a good day, but with my aerial, I could get Skychannel, Superchannel and sometimes even MTV. My friends actually came to my place to watch satelite television – on a small black and white screen. And it's only twenty years ago!

  35. gdare says:


  36. ellinidata says:

    Originally posted by gdare:

    This is why I like my friends here

    and your friends like you! :happy:make that "love" you :love:on a second thought make it "adore"

  37. gdare says:

    Kimmie, I will ask him but I don`t expect any developement on that matter :lol:Carlos, I have a personal trick that will share with you; when people must deliver something or when some kind of hany man is invited to make something or repair, first I ask them when they will come – or when they have time to come; after that I tell them I will be there and wait for them; BUT…. I tell them if they don`t "manage" to come that specific day or time, they better don`t try to do that another day because I will change them with someone else; sometimes I choose to pay for something upon delivery and it is easier to them to come in time than to return stuff back; then they will have to explain to their superriors what happened; and handy man will lose a money; I did it several times and it worked :happy:Rose, I guess no one uses transistor radio for a background noise these days :awww: :PMartin, this reminds me of a stories older people talking about how they managed to get Radio Luxembourg way back in 50s and 60s. Back then it was the only way some of the "western" music could be heard. When I was a kid we could have some of MTV only through official TV programme, it was not a direct broadcast but recordings of some popular music spots. Everything has changed in last 20 years ๐Ÿ˜€

  38. L2D2 says:

    BTW, all TV channels in U.S. had to go all digital in June this year. If on cable or satellite, there was no effect, but for those who had analog TV signals and using antennas or rabbit ears, all of a sudden there was no TV. Government had a program whereby you could apply for a coupon from government for a converter box. I did that and got converter box for my bedroom TV as it was not on my satellite system.I only paid $10 for it, without coupon, converters were 40 to 80 USD. I never hooked mine up but gave mine to my son, as he could no longer pay for satellite TV.

  39. L2D2 says:

    Adore will do. Dare, some people in U.S. have TV's in nearly every room. Very common to have large TV in living room or den, one in kitchen, one in each bedroom (I am not one of these, although I do have one in living room and one in bedroom). NOw, more and more people have also started putting TV's in their bathrooms. Yep! Watch TV while you do your business.

  40. Suntana says:

    Darko, depending on the service you're requiring though, that Tip / Threat won't work. For starters, here the Phone Repair Service and Cable Installation or Repair just plain ole will NOT give you a set time or at least a smaller time frame. It's always "somewhere between 8:00AM and 5:00PM." And while you can to some extent threaten the Phone Company that you'll change your provider, Cable companies … those are usually only ONE provider that handles a certain area. So, no matter where you live, a certain Cable company will handle that area whether you like them or not. If you don't like that Cable company or want to kick your current one to the curb, you'll then have to switch to Dish TV or DirectTV because there won't be another Cable company to switch to.Now Dish TV and DirectTV you probably CAN threaten them because you can threaten to go to the other.

  41. gdare says:

    Linda, there must be a big houses then :eyes: My appartment is only 45 square meters (484 square foot – what unit is usualy used for measuring appartments?), one TV is more than enough…. Majority of people here have only analog signal and we will switch to digital in 2012 as I mentioned before. Then I will decide which TV to buy. My friend has bought a flat screen Sony HDTV and payed for it about 700 eur. This is too much for my budget now.Carlos, you are right, one company covers one area for cable TV here, too. And I am waiting for them about 7 years now ๐Ÿ˜† In contract that I signed, it was stated that if they don`t come in 90 days I can sue them. But back then our jurisdictional system was very inneficient, I would probably still wait for justice to come – and for what? For my right to pay them for TV signal!!! No way ๐Ÿ˜›

  42. L2D2 says:

    Dare, my mobile home has 924 sq.ft. and there are other mobile homes that are a lot bigger. Average house here is about 2000 sq.ft., some older ones 1100 to 1500. Many of the homes being built now are over 3000 sq.ft. Places on average are much larger here than in Europe, or even in more heavily populated urban areas. I couldn't get all my furniture and stuff in your apt.As for apts., you can get many different sizes–1, 2, 3 and even 4 bedrooms—just depends on what you want to pay for one each month.

  43. Aqualion says:

    In Denmark TV broadcast goes digital in this month. I have broadband television in my apartment, a combination package with broadband internet, telephone and TV. This means 40 channels. That's the highest number of channels I've ever had, which is of course totally absurd, because the older I get the lesser television I watch. However, the prize is the cheapest bid in the area. Broadband telephone only or broadband internet only is in fact more expensive, than the whole package. My wife likes watching television, though. It's her way of relaxing. The good thing with the broadband box is, that I can record programmes and watch them later or press pause, if I have more important things to do, and watch the rest of the programme later. No special requirements for television set – it's all in the box. I have a small flat screen, which I bought for only 1000 kroner four years ago. It has good sound quality, which is more than you can say about the modern flat screens. Some of my friends have big flat screen televisions with amazing image quality, but the sound is just awful. I have musicians ear. I need good sound.

  44. gdare says:

    Linda, it is double size of what I have here and you call it mobile? :faint: What they used for moving it, helicopter? :left:Martin, that TV was really cheap, according to today's exchange rates it is about 135 eur. Flat screen TVs I have seen in that shop were from 250 eur to 3400 eur, depending on a size of a screen. Here is a link, it is in Serbian but you will manage.Having several services as one package is always better even though you got something you don't really need. There was a funny story here during 90s, when we had big economic crises: if you want to buy a bread you will have to buy a kilogram of nails, too. It costs a bit more than 1 bread but it is sold in package ๐Ÿ˜›

  45. gdare says:

    Ouppssss…. wrong post ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

  46. gdare says:

    Is it better now? ๐Ÿ˜€

  47. L2D2 says:

    Dare, you have totally lost me. Originally posted by gdare:

    Is it better now?

    uh, uh, yes it is? ๐Ÿ˜†

  48. Suntana says:

    Are you serious? The vendors extorted you into buying nails if you wanted bread? :insane:I guess that would be similar to say when teens go, "Hey, Mom, Dad, can I go to the movies?" The parents will go, "Sure! But … you have to take your little brother along." ๐Ÿ˜†

  49. L2D2 says:

    Picture of mobile home being moved, Dare. Truck doesn't have to be this big, though.

  50. gdare says:

    Graham, they are not much edible :insane:Carlos, it was a way to sell goods no one wanted; if you want to buy a car, you must buy a desk lamp too, no matter if you need it or not; it must have been sold :PLinda, I was, as you can see, editing a visibility of that eagle, because of some complaints I had in previous post ๐Ÿ˜› So I asked them is it better now, but unfortunately got confused with a right post :lol:That truck looks as it could be parked in that mobile home ๐Ÿ˜€ I have seen something like that in some USA movie but didn`t realise it could be that big; what I saw looked more like a bigger trailer or something :left:

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