A part of history that changed the face of Balkan

Ever since I made this blog in Opera Community, some people – on my friends list and the others – were asking me about what the hell had happened with Yugoslavia and later with Serbia, why one prosperous country eneded up in bloodshed with their citizens divided by nationality and religion, with desire to never live together again? I was trying to give answers to those questons, trying to be neutral as much as it was possible, trying to explain that most of actual facts are still hidden from us. And trying to explain that, after all, I don`t hate anyone.
Yesterday, one of my friends told me about a documentary made by Boris Malagurski, Sebian-Canadian film director and screenwriter – The Weight of Chains. So far this is the best description of recent Balkan history and gives the best possible answers to questions I mentioned before.
So if you have time – it is about 2 hours long – and interest in that topic, follow this link and you can find a page to watch the entire documentary on line.
I know that only a few of you will do that, though. Life goes on and what was in past, remains in past. Only, that past is still a present and a future for many of us.

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45 Responses to A part of history that changed the face of Balkan

  1. sanshan says:

    I can't wait to watch it…

  2. Furie says:

    I didn't get distracted by Schoolgirls in Chains… :whistle: Honest. :angel:This is actually something I'm interested in as my family decided Yugoslavia would be a great holiday destination in the late 80s and saved money to go there in the very early 90s… It was one of the earliest examples of a major upset that I'd seen in the world and certainly helped shape who I became after that. I'll see about downloading it when we've got a decent connection as it keeps giving me file managers and surveys on the different download links.

    Only, that past is still a present and a future for many of us.

    What happens in a single man's childhood shapes the future of the world for generations to come. You're living through the good and bad results of an incident that still makes little sense to the western world, as shown by the amount of us who keep asking you what happened there. At the end of the day we can only be who we are in spite of the surrounding world, and considering who you are, I think you personally won that war.

  3. sanshan says:

    What are the good results? From what I've seen of Serbia I don't think much has been won. Just my opinion.

  4. thaodp says:

    Bookmarked the page. I'll have to wait until next week to watch it.

  5. gdare says:

    Originally posted by Furie:

    At the end of the day we can only be who we are in spite of the surrounding world, and considering who you are, I think you personally won that war.

    All I can say is that, sometimes, I realise how much I know, by the experience I had in last 20+ years. The question is: am I cursed or blessed by that? Sometimes I can`t tell a difference.San, after the war(s) I was thinking, ok, we lost it, now that we are on the bottom we will have strength to push up to the surface, to have a breath of fresh air and to learn from our experience; to learn to swimm again. But it seems I was wrong, we were not even close to the bottom. These days, I think I can feel something, down on tip of my toes…

  6. SqueakeyCat says:

    i can't get to it. everywhere i go, it wants me to pay to see it.

  7. sanshan says:

    I think you are right, rock bottom has not been hit yet. Hopefully your country will be strong again some day. Well, I will watch the movie first before saying anything else.

  8. sanshan says:

    I've found this site, and after downloading a special codex (took 30 minutes!) I can now watch it.http://xtshare.com/ttoshare.php?Id=67898I'm only part way through, and though I don't really like this Michael Moore type of journalism (he does it better), it is just like you say Dare. Scary.

  9. sanshan says:

    :(Well, now I know why all the sad faces in Serbia and Croatia.I remember this quote from the movie, from a Bosnian, "I want problems to be fixed so we can live together like before (as Yugoslavia)".I also remember you telling me that as Yugoslavia, a communist country things were very good. To me it sounded nothing like communism portrayed by the West (U.S.) and acted out in Russia and China. Well…I have more to write than this. Later…

  10. Furie says:

    Originally posted by sanshan:

    What are the good results? From what I've seen of Serbia I don't think much has been won.

    War changes people and attitudes. While the country may still be slipping through the damage done, there are bound to be people shining brighter than ever before. Soldiers who've turned to peaceful solutions, criminals who renounced their ways to help their communities, even children who grew up more respectful and grateful for what they have. At the very least it brought the meddling America was doing in countries to the forefront of international thought for all of ten minutes.Originally posted by gdare:

    All I can say is that, sometimes, I realise how much I know, by the experience I had in last 20+ years. The question is: am I cursed or blessed by that? Sometimes I can`t tell a difference.

    From the outside you seem blessed by it. You lead a more mellow and peaceful existence that many people would pay a fortune to have. Your outlook on the world as portrayed by this blog at least is something very rare. You seem to see the beauty and miracles of this world that so many others are missing while looking to the sky for a miracle or denouncing their existence. It's an enviable attitude to have.I'd say there's no guarantee you guys would have met at all, nevermind gotten married, if the war hadn't have happened. Hell, you may not have liked each other if you had met as you'd both likely be different people. The worst event in Darko's life may well have led to the happiest in a way.

  11. gdare says:

    Kim, try that link San put in her comment. Link I provided, never asked me to pay :left:San, I am glad that now you can understand what led to disintegration of my former country. Sometimes, explanations I could give you are painted with my personal experience, therefore not necessarilly correct and neutral. I think that director of that movie did a good job. Also, I can't say that I agree to everything he said – or any of other people interviewed – but this is positive, I think. I don't have to agree to everything :DMik, I agree with what you've said, though. Especially about that part about San and me. We both had so different yet so similar lives that, step by step, led us to meet each other. I am more than happy about that :happy:

  12. SqueakeyCat says:

    i did…it wouldn't load. when i click on it, it brings up ads in other tabs, and i try to get it to play pressing the arrow button, like youtube, and it won't do anything. i tell it to d/l the video, and it takes me to some page to log in and pay to d/l it.idk, maybe its just me, but i can't get it to play

  13. gdare says:

    :sherlock:

  14. edwardpiercy says:

    I would very much like to watch it. But that thing that San talked about — I'll have wait until I get some time when I can mess with software stuff which I am usually bad at these days. Gotta admit too I'm a little distrustful of downloading stuff. San, you think that it is safe then?

  15. gdare says:

    Yes, I`ve been there already. Thanks :cheers:

  16. gdare says:

    It is safe. All she needed is to download a codec to decompress and see video file.Btw, you may try to search "watch Weight of Chains on line" in Google, you will have a planty useful links πŸ˜‰

  17. Furie says:

    Just found this for the people who aren't as trusting of the web as others.http://www.weightofchains.com/You can order the DVD from the people themselves.

  18. edwardpiercy says:

    @ Darko.@ Mik.Thanks. I've bookmarked the site. :up:

  19. clean says:

    I'm interested in watching it, too (on an aside, I've still got the Once Brothers in my 'To Watch' folder, but there's an awful lot in my 'To Watch' folder that I'm planning on getting around to watching … ). Unfortunately, it's 1.48 Gb, so it'll take a while.

  20. sanshan says:

    Well, when Djokovic becomes president Serbia will be strong once again. πŸ™„

  21. gdare says:

    Ed, you are welcome :cheers:David, take your time…. but take it :DSan, yeah, sure πŸ˜†

  22. AnitaMargita says:

    I'll watch this as soon as I can. Thanks for sharing and review, but most of all, thank you Darko for letting people all over the world understand the real situation in Balkan. Can I copy link of the movie and add it in my links?

  23. gdare says:

    Of course you can, just open the page and put it in favourites :)Thanks πŸ˜€

  24. SittingFox says:

    I was quite young when the war started and I don't think I really realised that it was all happening so (relatively) close. I guess it's a sobering reminder of how fragile society often is. I might check out that documentary when I have a moment.

  25. gdare says:

    Back then there was a theory that said that in country like mine only 30 mil USD was needed to start the war. I don`t know how much someone spent but it was not too much over that amount.

  26. AnitaMargita says:

    Thank you. :)You're welcome. πŸ˜€

  27. Furie says:

    50 million US dollars is a price I've heard described as "a worthwhile investment".

  28. gdare says:

    I bet it is. Few days ago Croatian government donated 15000 AK47 riffles to Afghanistan army. Those were part of the armament shipment someone smuggled into Croatia at the beginning of destruction of Yugoslavia. Those riffles are about 670.000 EUR worth today. Imagine how many riffles, different armament and ammunition could be bought for 50 mil USD :left: Plus media coverage for your "cause"…

  29. Abbacus says:

    Madness, like flotsam and jetsam in an otherwise majestic ocean, is always just below the surface; waiting for the slightest surge or cross-current to rear itself up. Dependable as the tides, but not as predictable, it is always with us. War is the most terrible consequence in this world of madness in man.

  30. gdare says:

    I like the way you said that :up:

  31. Furie says:

    Plus covering media coverage against your cause. One press conference where you state who you want to win as people you support and the others get painted as villains. War is easy to profit from, terrifyingly so in fact.

  32. gdare says:

    Mik, I hope you will be able to watch it soon :up:

  33. qlue says:

    I'll look into downloading it tonight. :up:.Anyone got a torrent link? :sherlock:.

  34. AnitaMargita says:

    Important: If anyone find the link, it wouldn't be wise to share it here in comments because MO doesn't allow that. PM than. :left:

  35. gdare says:

    Qlue, I hope you will find a link :up:Ana, thanks :up:

  36. Furie says:

    They've no problem with legal links.

  37. raniakasim says:

    so long time Darko really i missed ur interesting post .i would like to say we have the same problem in our Arabian world ( am not sure whether u know that or not ) but at least u face the problem and don't blame the other like us 😦

  38. gdare says:

    Rania, we blame others as much as we blame ourselves. What is going on now in Syria is a bit similar to what has happened here 20 years ago. Let me give you a piece of advice. Give your best to survive current situation, it won`t last forever. Try to save your and lives of your family and friends. Avoid politics, it will give you remorse later. In situation like that there are no brave or coward people, only smart and stupid ones.

  39. Furie says:

    Originally posted by gdare:

    only smart and stupid ones.

    Practical and impractical.

  40. raniakasim says:

    really i appreciate ur advice , thanks very much for it , but how i can apply it and two weeks ago my neighbor died because of torture, Ahmed ,22 years , that strong guy left the house on his feet and return on his back with his body and his face completely Distorted, How do I can be smart and do not sympathize with his mother and his sister ,how do i can be practical and don't chant with the ten thousand people who participate in his funeral with one voice, people want to execute the President , actually i thought of writing a post a bout him but i am afraid that u may can't tolerate such scene.

  41. gdare says:

    Mik, I knew some of the brave men from last wars in Balkan. They are all dead.Rania, I know how you might feel now, it is not easy to think calmly in a situation like what you have there. But believe me, when a dust settles, all you have are memories. Everything else returned to what it was before. Maybe a bit better but usually much worse. I would like to give you a better advice but I can`t. Just to stay away of politics. It may leave you nothing but a bitter taste in mouth one day.Btw, mourning after dead friend is ok. There is nothing wrong with it.

  42. qlue says:

    Originally posted by gdare:

    Just to stay away of politics.

    That's the best advice anyone can have! :happy:.

  43. Furie says:

    Bravery and war should never mix. It's like giving a moth a nuclear blast to be attracted to. They can't help themselves.

  44. raniakasim says:

    well Darko , Mad Scientist , and Mik Furie , i know that we are so emotional , I have to confess of that , i think it is good for me deal with people with different cultural background, perhaps this will help me to get out of this vicious circle , i promise i will try to follow ur advice

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