Aikido seminar in Belgrade

I am attending a two days Aikido seminar in Belgrade, under guidance of Yoji Fujimoto Sensei (7th DAN) from Italy. I just came back home after almost 5 hours of hard practice divided into two trainings this afternoon. Even though we were divided into groups according to rank, my friends from Belgrade who organised a seminar estimated that my knowledge is good enough to practice with higher ranks – some of you maybe know that I have never took exam for ranks in Aikido, no matter the fact that I am practicing it for more than 10 years now; I have decided to go with "career" in Japanese fencing and Aikido is helping me to expend my overall knowledge in martial arts.
My muscles are sore and I feel very tired now – it will be a challenge to wake up early in the morning and go to another part of town and practice 2 more hours. But I am satisfied. Seminar is as I expectd it to be and I am sort of testing myself now.
I don`t have photographs at the moment, but there will be some in Serbian Aikido Federation web site for sure. Then I will link them here. Now, just a short clip from You tube about Fujimoto Sensei.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbXMFwainUk
For those of you who would like to know more about Aikido follow this link.

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108 Responses to Aikido seminar in Belgrade

  1. Dacotah says:

    Hi Darko, interesting.

  2. LorenzoCelsi says:

    Yes, Darko but I always wanted to understand "why" a thing was done in a way instead of another. I mean, not just repeating moves again and again just because I was told to, I wanted to understand the meaning of those moves.See this video, it is master Nakayama, one of the disciples of the founder of Shotokan Karate. There is one of the most important kata and also a sort of "application" of it.

    I found this kata very difficult to do, especially the jump. But while the kata in itself looks impressive when properly executed, the application… hum, so and so. I mean, who ever punches you that way while walking backwards? πŸ™‚

  3. LorenzoCelsi says:

    Steven Seagal lived in Japan and learned Aikido there. I saw some video about him demonstrating Aikido (not movies) like above. Same level of "realism" anyway.The "italian" master is japanese, he just lives and works in Italy I guess. Italy had a traditional martial art in the classical age, which was also known by the Greeks as "pankration" (if I recall it correctly) and it translates in "everything is permitted". It was abandoned in the middle ages because it was more practical to cut people in pieces with an axe.Found on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankration

  4. LorenzoCelsi says:

    I saw some demonstrations of Aikido like the above video. Never understood them much then. From my very very little knowledge of it the premise is to engage the opponent in some kind of "embracing" (inside some sort of "spheric volume") and then unbalance him and apply some locking. But the attacks are so unrealistic… I've tried to fight with a guy from kickboxing once and, besides the fact that he was 20 kg heavier and 20 cm taller than me, I found almost impossible to hold my own in the traditional way against an opponent not following any "formalism". Only chance would have been to employ "forbidden" techniques hoping in surprise. Otherwise you are simply overwhelmed by short range rain of blows.

  5. edwardpiercy says:

    Yuji Fujimoto. Ah, a good traditional Italian name. :pGot one of those media unsupported things on the video, so I'll have to view it later when I fire up the computer again. But for now I'll just say that I am glad that you are continuing your studies. :yes:Aikido — isn't that what Steven Sagal uses?

  6. gdare says:

    Lorenzo, to cut the long story short, it all depend to what are you looking after in practicing martial arts. For me it is not to become the strongest man in the world (I am too skinny for that πŸ˜† ); also not to be some bad ass, the most dangerous man in the neighbourhood. People do a lot of different things in their lives, either to make themselves faster or stronger or smarter. My opinion is that practicing martial arts could make a mind of a practicioner set in a "mode" so he/she will become better person. Going to your limits, both physical and mental, then crossing over them through hard and dedicated training can make you know yourself better. To let you know what you can do and what is breaking you. I don`t mind sport and Olympics that much – I like to watch them sometimes and that`s all. Self developement was always my goal and Martial Arts are just a way to do it. Someone play chass or swimm but I will never say that only my way is right way. There are a lot of paths and we are chosing the one that fits us the best.

  7. gdare says:

    Carol, thanks.Lorenzo, you are right, attacks are not realistic in most of the techniques. Aikido was an idea of a man with a lot of martial arts experience but I can`t understand why he made it this way. So I am practicing it like a kata, trying to make every little single detail into a whole technique. And I feel good doing it πŸ™‚

  8. gdare says:

    San, a lot of people say that. The most important thing in every martial art is moving. Tai sabaki (body movement) and ashi sabaki (legs movement) are supposed to practice hard, in order to know how tpo avoid attack and/or to attack yourself. Breaking a secure distance will take you to a position, when properly performed, could be a winning situation in every "one to one" or "one to few" encounter πŸ™‚

  9. LorenzoCelsi says:

    I guess the problem is the need to translate a practicing about hurting people in a sport discipline where nobody gets hurt. If you can't train in realistic conditions then after a while the training become a sort of dance and/or a formalized game where the only goal is to score points. It is not different from today's olympics. I mean, once upon a time you learned to throw a javelin for hunting or for war or you learned fencing using real weapons.I've studied all the katas from Shotokan Karate and some from other styles. There is a separate discipline about the translation of those katas in realistic techniques (if I rrecall correctly it is namen "bunkai" but I could be wrong). Again the problem is in "sport Karate" 99% of those techniques are forbidden then they aren't taught. The result is Katas are just a sort of "dance" and, even worse, the kind of fight you learn from them is AGAINST the "sport kumite", I mean the "fencing" you see in competition fights. And so people who train for competing in Katas usually aren't good in Kumite and vice versa.I must say training with those guys from kickboxing made some points pretty clear. Training in "martial arts" is fun and somehow interesting but, unless you find a way to learn the very traditional roots of it, what you get from today's dojos is so far from it to be ineffective.

  10. sanshan says:

    I looks like dancing. πŸ™‚

  11. Dacotah says:

    πŸ™‚

  12. sanshan says:

    So you must be a very good dancer then! πŸ˜‰

  13. L2D2 says:

    Dare, doesn't matter why you do it. Challenging self is a good thing. No knowledge is lost and everything has it's purpose. We can't have martial arts tournaments and have people killing each other for real. Didn't you tell me once that there are only 10 Dans? If so, then Mr. Fujimoto is way up there isn't he?

  14. Stardancer says:

    It does look like dancing. πŸ™‚

  15. ellinidata says:

    they must have been very interesting two days Darko!how many of you in the group?what are you doing for the sore muscles? Is hot bath helping?

  16. sanshan says:

    To ease his sore muscles Dare lies down on the floor and the Aikido master walks up and down his spine. πŸ˜†

  17. ellinidata says:

    Originally posted by sanshan:

    To ease his sore muscles Dare lies down on the floor and the Aikido master walks up and down his spine.

    and I hear the Ailido master counting "one mile, two miles, three miles… " :pI went to a Chinese (not Japanese) body healer ,and she was stepping on my back … not a bad feeling at all!

  18. studio41 says:

    " But I am satisfied. " this says it all

  19. risis1977 says:

    Interesting darko :yes:I don't know about aikido :pBut seems interesting . .

  20. sanshan says:

    oh, and this is after drinking a bottle of sake!

  21. gdare says:

    πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  22. sanshan says:

    πŸ˜€

  23. gdare says:

    Risis, thanks, I hope you could find interesting informations on that link I put there πŸ™‚

  24. sanshan says:

    Oh I bet you dance around in your pink panther boxers while listening to Greek Bazouki music. What do you think Angeliki? :p

  25. gdare says:

    Ed, as Lorenzo said, Steven Segal practiced Aikido in Japan and brought it to movies, as Bruce Lee brought Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do before him. Yoji Fujimoto is living in Milan in Italy and has his own dojo (martial arts club) there. He is respected as one of the best Japanese Aikido, master in Europe.Lorenzo, I have heard for Pankration before. I will have tu hurry now to another training so I will check on that link you put this evening. Also the Nakayama master video. Thanks for sharing it.San, I don`t know to dance at all :awww:Star, but there is no music at all :DLinda, yes he is very high. I am not sure but I think in Aikido, masters who have 6th DAN and above, don`t have to take exams for ranks. Headquarter in Japan decides when and why to give them ranks because some of them has technique so perfect that it could be impossible to estimate it is better or worse. So instead they consider efforts someone is putting in development of organisation nd Aikido itself.Angeliki, the group is about 250+ people in that seminar. And no special treatment for sore muscles. I just wait for it to go by itself. I could use a massage, though :DJill, thank you :)San and Angeliki πŸ˜†

  26. risis1977 says:

    Anytime darko πŸ˜€

  27. BabyJay99 says:

    :up: Gambarimasu Darkosan!Banzai: :up:

  28. L2D2 says:

    You are depriving the ladies, Dare. Learn to dance.

  29. LorenzoCelsi says:

    There is a critical problem with "moving" in martial arts and dance and ladies. In martial arts you move to go out of the attack line/range of your opponent while with ladies you must do the exact opposite. πŸ™‚

  30. Furie says:

    Okay, seperating the different arts you've learned and adding up the years of study, how many years have you been doing this?

  31. ellinidata says:

    Originally posted by sanshan:

    Oh I bet you dance around in your pink panther boxers while listening to Greek Bazouki music. What do you think Angeliki?

    the only thing I have to say to him is ,"pictures please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " πŸ™‚ Originally posted by gdare:

    I could use a massage, though

    *sends a gift certificate for a massage ,at your nearest "pamper and love a man" facility *

  32. sanshan says:

    I think he should dance for his massage…you know, like, sing for your supper. πŸ™‚

  33. sanshan says:

    Well we can't have that can we. :rolleyes:Oh don't you know? The "pamper and love a man" facility is next door to the "treat a woman right" institution. πŸ˜†

  34. gdare says:

    Leaz, I did my best :DLinda, maybe I need a good teacher :whistle:Lorenzo, experienced words :cool:Kiran, thanks :)Mik, let me see… I started to practice Kendo in december 1986. and stopped in 1998. Iaido in 1993 until the present times, but not that active as before. Aikido in 1999. Battodo in 2003. Kendo, Iaido and Battodo are forms of Japanese fencing; these are the systems I am very intersted about.So, I am practicing for about 23 years now.Angeliki,Originally posted by ellinidata:

    *sends a gift certificate for a massage ,at your nearest "pamper and love a man" facility *

    I will have to find that facility first :lol:San, if I would sing for my supper I would die starving, that`s for sure. The same goes for dancing… πŸ˜†

  35. Furie says:

    23 years eh? Have I mentioned how handsome you look today? :insane:

  36. sanshan says:

    πŸ˜€

  37. gdare says:

    πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  38. gdare says:

    Mik πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  39. L2D2 says:

    πŸ˜† Dare, I'm sure dance teacher wouldn't be hard to find—–if you can't use sugar to find one, threaten to cut off their head with your sword. That ought to do er. πŸ˜† (It would me)

  40. gdare says:

    Actually, one of my friends, who was practicing Aikido during 80s and 90s has his own dancing school now. He invited me to come and learn to dance last time we met. Now, if I could only find a time….. πŸ˜€

  41. thaodp says:

    and we want to see when you're leanring :whistle: πŸ˜€

  42. Suntana says:

    5 Hours of practice … in 1 day? Gulp!Hmmm? I wonder, Darko. Maybe this so-called estimation by your friends that you're now good enough to practice with the higher ranks might have an agenda behind it. Are these friends REALLY friends? Or could they possibly want some cheap entertainment? Could they possibly want to see you get your ass kicked? :insane: Nah! I concur with your friends to a certain extent, Darko. I think it's time you challenge Steven Segal. He's past his prime. So, MAYBE you can take him. :headbang:

  43. Suntana says:

    So, Darko, in your many years of training, have you gotten to the part where they teach you how to take on 10 guys at a time who are around you in a circle? Better yet, have they taught you the Bad Guy Code of Ethics? Have they taught you that if YOU are gonna be part of a circle of guys ganging up on someone else … you have to actually attack only 1 at a time, while making it APPEAR that you're attacking all at once?

  44. gdare says:

    Mit, it would cause people die laughing :left: :PCarlos, my friend who told me to stay and practice with higher ranks estimated my ability to follow some advanced techniques; on the other hand, all techniques in Aikido are based on a simple concept of performing kicks, throws or control over opponenet; a tricky part is how to come to that; as for a group attack to one, there is a practice called jiu waza, and in Aikido it is an usual part of training. Not easy to perform, I must say.

  45. Suntana says:

    Heyyyyy! Speaking of Chuck Norris, as per Imdb, Chuck will be 70 this Wednesday. You ask on whom would I bet between a Martial Arts of Choice Smackdown between the OC Legendary Darko vs Took on Bruce Lee – CHUCK Norris? Well, Darko has the obvious age advantage. But, then again … Chuck IS CHUCK. :norris: :headbang: I would have loved to have seen Chuck Norris vs. Steven Seagal back 30 / 35 years ago. As per Imdb, Steven Seagal is 11 years younger than Chuck.

  46. L2D2 says:

    How about meeting up with Chuck's namesake, Chuck Norris? Who you gonna bet on Chuck?

  47. gdare says:

    As Carlos said, Chuck is Chuck. No one can beat him 😎

  48. L2D2 says:

    That's cause he lives in Texas. πŸ˜†

  49. L2D2 says:

    I'm using Google Chrome for Linux. I can click on the smilie and get the smilies box to open, and I can use the smilies, but I can't dismiss the darn thing. It won't collapse when I click on the smilie again.

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